Europe could and should commit itself to being more than a match for Russia if it had the balls. 'The current deployments are versatile. Without ASuW the RN is badly exposed, and its criminal negligence sending sailors into a warzone without ability to take offensive action. Historical animosity towards the Russians. Putin is serious about sabre-rattling and applying miitary pressure. The. A string of government websites was hacked on Friday. The target selection technology provides NSM with a capacity for independent detection, recognition, and discrimination of targets at sea or on the coast. If it doesnt conform to the official line it gets spiked. Sean, Where is this wharf in Australia? Thats one of the reasons the JSM in particular is getting the BAe RF receiver. I certainly do! And if we enter a shooting war with Russia. The combat readiness of your fighting units degrade, morale becomes a problem and your armour becomes less effective as maintaince for war becomes a problem. Turkeys first dedicated intelligence-gathering ship, TCGUfuk(A-591), was officially commissioned into service at Istanbul Shipyard in Tuzla, Istanbul, on 14 January, smail Demir, head of Turkeys Presidency of Defence Industries (SSB), has announced. Kyiv might also be provoked into attacking by the separatists who could then ask Russia to send troops to help, he said. Really poor analysis of a foreign state. The Iranians are being bombed at will. Who is bombing the Iranians? "It is a hypersonic sea-based system - [and the vessel has other] latest-generation weapons. Land, they have plenty. He wasnt kissing his backside so much when he scrapped the intermediate range nuclear forces treaty! Tobias Ellwood said Russian President Vladimir Putin was taking full advantage of a weakened West. Published: 8:51 ET, Jan 24 2023 A RUSSIAN warship armed with "unstoppable" hypersonic missiles is sailing towards the US coast in a show of strength, reports claim. Several Squadrons of both Interceptor and Ground Attack aircraft from various NATO nations with beefed up on-ground defences and anti-aircraft units. Russian Navy ships can be seen in satellite imagery approaching the Ukrainian Coast. He told officials the UK stood shoulder-to-shoulder with the Baltic state a Nato ally. The ships, which can each carry up to 25 armoured personnel carriers, were deployed three days ago but it remains unclear if they are heading for Ukraine. Published. Which begs the question why? The N Koreans are starving again. Our SSNs will be busy chasing their SSNs, and so each RN surface vessel should be capable of offensive action. A Russian military ship armed with hypersonic missiles has sailed through the Strait of Dover, the narrowest part of the English Channel - only a few miles away from the English coast. It can be logically assumed that KALIBR capability willRead more . But the virus restrictions have meant few have been trained and tested to replace them. I didnt think anyone could be worse than Trump. Some showed messages saying:'Be afraid and expect the worst.'. His advanced years are often publicly evident in his performance. He said the countries were 'united in their resolve' against Russian aggression. The Armys flip ups on procurement have disengaged us from effective land ops in NATO context. We in the West lost sight of the long term strategic goal of the US is remaining the sole superpowewr. Seizing southern Ukraine could cut Kyiv off from the coast and NATO's presence in the Black Sea, Melvin said, and could play well with Russian nationalists who see the area as the historic 'Novorossiya' lands or 'New Russia'. He really wants to install a pro-Russian government in Kiev and to have independence for theRead more . I would say that is far more annoying than Greta who actually tries her best to practice what she preaches. An analogy would be how the small number of US troops placed in both Syria and Afghanistan deterred attackers until they were removed andlook what follows. I see a German Navy Chief had to resign tonight, for making pro Russian comments. Trump kissed Putins behind in every way possible to the point he tried to break our democracy on the 6th of January, 2021. A senior State Department official said: 'This is neither an exercise nor normal troop movement. Royal Navy monitors Russian warships off the east coast of Scotland It requires us to hold their backyard at risk, whether thats in the Barents Sea, the High North, the Baltic or the Black Sea.. Trump kissing Putins ass in Helsinki infuriated a lot of Americans. Meanwhile the potential peer foes, Russia and China, were very quietly building up their defensive forces initially and then offensive to a standard able to match a peer adversary. 'Also, if he just occupies the eastern regions he will never be able to take back the whole of Ukraine because of the inevitable strengthening of Ukrainian forces in the remainder of the country in the aftermath. You talking Cobbers as usual! Biden is shaping up to be just as bad and hopefully another 1-term wonder. The ships have included a surfaced submarine, a destroyer, a corvette and a patrol ship along with their supporting tugs and supply ships travelling in the English Channel, Celtic Sea and the West Coast of Scotland. F35 will also receive SPEAR 3 which also has anti ship capability. Rocks?' The same Russian warship has since conducted military drills in the Norwegian Sea, the Russian defence ministry announced. Im not entirely sure how/where you have Ur info ref Astutes having v limited Comms when dived from? I think you overestimated Russias economy Ivan , its smaller than that nutty economy of Italys lol. It said about 50 BTGs were already in place to the north and east of Ukraine and in Crimea to the south. 'We are asking for more, and we are expecting to have more,' Mr Prystaiko told BBC Radio 4's Today programme. the disaster of the BEF and lack of anti tank capability that was promised in the event of conflict, sadly never materialised. A 4 ship of F35s could put 36 missiles into the target area from over 100km away with the advantage of stealth. I think youre forgetting the Enhanced Forward Presence incl Canadians, Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Romainians, Slovaka, Czechs, Danes, Norgies, Albanians, Slovenes, Italians, Germans, French and may have missed one or two just saying like. The assessment said Moscow had deployed troops to the border on a 'permanent' basis and said the movement of 'stockpiles of ammunition, field hospitals and security services' to the hinterlands confirmed 'the preparation for offensive operations'. The Telegraph values your comments but kindly requests all posts are on topic, constructive and respectful. If Russia invades what do they do next? https://www.janes.com/defence-news/naval-weapons/latest/turkish-navy-commissions-first-intelligence-gathering-ship. Royal Navy warship @HMSPortland is tracking Russian guided missile frigate Admiral Gorshkov and accompanying tanker Kama as they sail in international waters close to the UK. Like pieces on a chess board, I suppose not all of the movements need to make sense. Syria is not a big news story for Putin. Billboard in Dnipro, Ukraine with the statement written in Russian. what about nato members bulgaria and romania? We should grant him that and make it a reality. Time to send some Astutes to the Med for target practice! SMs dont spend a lot of time having needless conversations with their controlling authority. What sonar or anti submarine equipment will t31 possess? Moscow could launch an attack on Ukraine from Crimea and seize territory up to the Dnieper River that could serve as a natural barrier against any Ukrainian counter-offensive, said Konrad Muzyka, director of the Poland-based Rochan consultancy. It looks like a scene from 1984. Should they choose to do so. "By maintaining a visible and persistent presence, the Royal Navy ensures compliance with maritime law and deters malign activity to protect our nations interests. Correction. For further details of our complaints policy and to make a complaint please click this link: thesun.co.uk/editorial-complaints/, Russian corvette Boikiy (back) which was shadowed by HMS Lancaster, A sailor on board HMS Severn monitoring Russian patrol ship Vasily Bykov and in the background submarine Stary Oskol, The Russian corvette Boikiy (front) was followed by HMS Lancaster, Russian warship Vice-Admiral Kulakov which was shadowed by HMS Northumberland, Typhoon jets flying above the Russian warship Vice-Admiral Kulakov, Asailor on board HMS Northumberland monitors Boikiy, Russian warship threatensto ram the US Navys destroyer John S McCain, Royal Navy shadows NINE Russian warships stalking Britains coast in just two weeks, Putin's thugs close in on ravaged Ukrainian city with thousands fleeing as intense fighting rages, Partygate buster Sue Gray's son 'boasting about mum on campaign trail as he tries to unseat Boris Johnson', Suella Braverman vows to stop the boats with new law to crack down on migrants using human rights laws to stay in UK, Runaway mum Constance Marten was 'groomed' by evil Nigerian sect leader, Man 'naked and covered in blood' arrested before mum found 'murdered' at home as neighbours reveal hearing screams, Rishi Sunaks new bill to end the Channel migrant crisis is crucial for the Tories, Leicester 'explosion': Listen to massive 'sonic' boom that shook homes and rattled windows. looking at the satellite images of the Rusian camps near the boarder. Is funny that in America when Trump was President the media said he had made a secret deal with Putin but now that Biden is President and has verbally given Putin the OK to invade Ukraine the US media says nothing but how great Biden is. And in the Western Military District, a missile regiment armed with S-400 Triumf mobile, surface-to-air missile system conducted electronic launches at a range in Leningrad region. 'It is the choice of President Putin and the Russians to make, whether they are going to suffer severe economic consequences or not.'. Western military analysts have suggested Russia cannot keep such troops deployed where they are indefinitely for financial and logistical reasons and would need to pull them back by summer. Russian warships in English Channel prompt UK Navy shadowing operation A capability upgrade as and when needed, might well happen. Russian warship, go fuck yourself - Wikipedia We are in a potentially high risk scenario all it takes is a trigger point. They have nothing to match it. The warship is feared to be loaded with 7,000mph hypersonic missiles with a range of over 600 miles. Regime change? That calls a defense expert on the plan. The proliferation of this capability within the new Russian Navy is profoundly changing its ability to deter, threaten or destroy adversary targets. russian dockyards will need to build more tugs. The Kremlin also deployed servicemen to Belarus this week, ostensibly for major military operations with the country, sparking fears in neighbouring Lithuania. It was not immediately clear what equipment would be arriving today. Sweden has also been reinforcing its forces on the island of Gotland in case the Russians attempt anything there. It was/would cost a big chunk of their budget to keep them operational and safe. George Allison Ties between London and Moscow have been on ice since the 2018 poisoning with a Soviet-developed nerve agent known as Novichok of ex-double agent Sergei Skripal, a mole who betrayed hundreds of Russian agents to Britain's MI6 foreign spy service. Add in SPEAR EW, which will be an air launched jammer, creating false targets, and the bad guys are going to have a veryRead more . Its not a valid comparison in 2003 the Russian was in a post Yeltsin mess and in no way capable of acting as a deterrent to US forces. That is the role of EFP troops in Poland and the Baltics show of support plus being a tripwire. A Slava Class cruiser isnt going to be worried by any Wildcat, whilst ROEs mean that by the time Astutes have surfaced to receive comms the shooting has started and finished. Defence forces monitor Russian warships off Irish coast There are only two roads from Crimea that could be blocked or destroyed, a potential weakness, he said. Last night, Kiev hailed Britain for sending anti-tank weapons and troops as an 'important first step' to help the country defend itself. Severn was also on patrol as the Vice-Admiral Kulakov sailed through the Channel. They took over from @kon_marine and will pass onto the @MarineNationale to continue the escort. The anti-tank weapon systems weve sent out recently are a welcome contribution alongside the stuff the US sent out last year, but much more should have been done and long before now. Patrol ship HMS Tyne monitored two warships and an intelligence gathering vessel as they carried out replenishment operations with their supporting tanker. 'Dangerous moment': Russian naval buildup near Ukraine - POLITICO See here for a complete list of exchanges and delays. Agree but the Russians view is that any weapon in hand can be used against an enemy and therefore gets kept. Where do they and other countries replace it from? My point still stands EFP is a deterrent/trip wire force to prevent Russia thinking she has an option to interfere in those countries. Purely theoretical, but just imagine Putin had deployed military units to Iraq in 2002/2003 as peacekeepers and to secure WMD. The British Army for starters needs a serious shake up and recapitalisation. The operation could begin with artillery, missile and air strikes on Ukrainian units in the south, and special forces units might seize bridges and railway junctions, allowing troops and tanks to advance, he said. Xi has exactly the same problems internally in China and may be actually undetaking a modern genocide of the Uighur for which the Taiwan crisis is his distraction. Assassinations of nuclear experts. It is very obvious where they are going, staring you right into your eyes!! Could you tell me what youre drinking? Zelensky thanked Blinken on Twitter after their meeting and said he was counting on stronger 'economic& financial' cooperation from the West. Douglas you are as delusional as can be in your explanation (Bidens fault) for why this is happening. With the US on side, it could even be a NATO contingent. And the capitol protests are nothing to do with this. But the Ukrainian ambassador to the UK, Vadym Prystaiko, called on extra help from Western powers. Ammunition depots. Turkey's Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu said on Saturday that the death toll in Turkey from last month's massive earthquakes has to 45,968. ', She said it mimicked the playbook used when Russia annexed the Crimean peninsula, and included social media disinformation to show Kiev as the instigator of violence. We do need more ships and we will increase the number of frigates in the years to come. The US Coast Guard said Wednesday it is monitoring a Russian ship near Hawaii. If you were spending months in a bunker in a trench system in that climate I think it may well matter. You have to look at the bigger picture, Russia, China and the Iranians are holding joint exercises in the Indian ocean, increased naval activity in the Arctic, My biggest concern is India and Pakistan. Pity we dont have an enormous fleet of attack submarines to take out surface ships. Unless of course you are a Putin oligarch;0). We will see who is right in a month or two. Russian warships sail down British coastline | CNN Russia is allied with Iran, need I say more. Forces would secure control of a canal that provided Crimea with fresh water supplies until Russia annexed the region and Ukraine stopped the flow, he said. Royal Navy shadows NINE Russian warships around UK coast in just 2 weeks Historical connections with Lvov/Lviv arguably Polish for some. Most likely require a supplementary MoD budget? As to the vaccine mandate, you are aware of the cross US/Canada border restrictions that came into force today that affect 50% or so drivers and the log jams in US west coast ports? You are just gaslighting everyone Douglas and sowing division because you cant admit you are wrong: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/01/19/statement-from-press-secretary-jen-psaki-on-russian-aggression-towards-ukraine/, Thanks Douglas. In such a febrile atmosphere, the risk of a misunderstanding or unplanned escalation is greater, and Russia could use such an incident as a casus belli. Mr Scholz told reporters it was 'clear that there will be a high price to pay and that everything will have to be discussed should there be a military intervention in Ukraine'. They attack a completely different country miles from that one? Ill accept naval power but always is a bit sweeping. In Moscow, Russia summoned Ambassador Deborah Bronnert for a reprimand over what it said were Britain's "dangerous" action in the Black Sea - while foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova accused London of "barefaced lies". General Carter also said the long anticipated Integrated Review of Foreign, Defence and Security policy, now expected in January, will herald the biggest shake-up of the army in a generation. At this distance we could also send a cutting out party/borders Im sure! George has a degree in Cyber Security from Glasgow Caledonian University and has a keen interest in naval and cyber security matters and has appeared on national radio and television to discuss current events. Not many decent investigative journos around now. It seems a good time to propose it in the commons. LONDON, June 24 (Reuters) - Russia warned Britain on Thursday that it would bomb British naval vessels in the Black Sea if there were any further provocative actions by the British navy off the coast of Russia-annexed Crimea. Are Putins dirty secrets going to be revealed? Will Stewart The guided missile frigate Admiral Gorshkov has been closely monitored by Nato navies on its maiden voyage armed with 6,670mph Zircon weapons. The White Housewarned yesterday the situation was 'extremely dangerous' and that Moscow could launch an attack 'at any point'. ", READ MORE: Russian doctors urge Putin to 'stop abusing' Alexei Navalny, Maintaining maritime situational awareness is a core task for #NATO Standing Maritime Groups, in close coordination with Allies. Just been channel hooping with various News outlets and what I can gather is that the Ukrainian public are just getting on normal Living , it would seem that the 24hr News channels are too blame for the So called tensions just like a certain plot for a James Bond movie with Johnathan Pryce as the TV mogul who wants too start a War for Ratings. Any toys the RN requires would magical appear on the Quay side, and the funds suddenly available. Iv said all along all the US has to do is move over a few B52s B1s and B2 to UK on a routine training mission. There are plenty of other tough choices we need to make in order to solve climate change, I know but what really gets my goat, are the people who whi ge about C C then drive their kids to school, in those bloody 44 SUVs and the School is within walking distance. "We can appeal to common sense, demand respect for international law, and if that doesn't work, we can bomb," Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told Russian news agencies. The RN suffered badly in the Falklands through short sightedness and gaps in capabilities, and is sadly doomed to suffer again unless it takes the enemies and their capabilities and tactics seriously. Nope me neither. All it takes is for 1 to get through! Special Forces, or a couple of thousand US Marines or Paratroopers. I know Sean but she would certainly Grind Vlad Putin down, Thats true enough, she grinds me down and I accept the science behind climate change!! They believe Mr Putin's troops are being positioned in line with his new objective, with armoured divisions set to head into neighbouring Belarus on exercise but now stationed within striking distance of Kiev. Your posts are very aggressive. You act like the US has nothing to prepare for or be cautious with and we can throw our weight around like Panama in 1989. Sheer incompetence being the only major navy in the world to not have AsUW capability beyond a 4.5 pea shooter. Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the British warship, which was travelling from the Ukrainian port of Odessa to the Georgian port of Batumi, was acting in accordance with the law and had been in international waters. Hope the Turks can hold them up over their passage through the straights and send Putins timetable skew-whiff. Its a game to stop NATO advancing further east, and a political statement. SAMs/ASMs/AAMs mostly new plus a handfull of big ticket items but the vast majority are just 40 year old designs with a new paint job and go faster stripes. We use your sign-up to provide content in ways you've consented to and to improve our understanding of you. Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said the reporting was based on 'unfounded' information, according to the TASS news agency. It just shows the Ruskis have sleepers in the German armed forces. So will Taiwan. This is howRead more , Thats reassuring.Thanks. He wants to get some skin in the game like the West has had the past 20 years. Concussion will do too much damage. A fleet of Russian warships and fighter jets, including the flagship aircraft carrier the Admiral Kuznetsov, has reached the North Sea and is headed for the English Channel, the UK's Ministry of . Well the attacks came from Yemen itself as did missiles over night last night they arent coming from Iranian soil. Likewise the presence of Nato tripwire forces might just persuade Russian planners to step back. In comments that will alarm Kiev, German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock said her country needs 'a reliable Russia' to supply Europe with gas. It comes after UK dfence chiefs said yesterday they fear Putin will opt for the 'nightmare scenario' of a full invasion of Ukraine as tensions rise towards tipping point. Russia is flexing its muscles in Britains back yard after ten warships arrived off the UK coast, the Chief of the Defence Staff has warned. Final talks on NI post-Brexit deal as UK PM meets EU chief - No 10. Thanks for correction but my point was that in the UK he is of DEFENCE not DEFENSE-just trying to hold the line for Oxford English. it wont need much of a spark to set it all off. The industry leader for online information for tax, accounting and finance professionals. We reported earlier that amid ongoing tensions between Russia and Ukraine, the Russian navy has sortied 5 Ropucha-class landing ships and one Ivan Gren-class landing ship from their Baltic fleet, likely headed to the Black Sea. Iran has been poking the region with a pointy stick for years now just to see what sort of rea tin they would get in return. The oil tanker Kama seems to have followed it, French media reported. get her back in dock and rebuild her from the inside out. Yep, putting a heavy weight anti ship missile in a cruise ship would be the ultimate fuck up and hand a victory to Russia. faster working shipyards would help. Trump was right about Germany being too dependent upon Russian gas and some EU states not spending enough on defence. During the last 2 years lots of HGV drivers left the profession, as happens every year. Britain disputed the Russian version of events, with Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab calling it "predictably inaccurate". You forgot Estonia which is British led! Our carriers will only come intoRead more . Its perhaps worth considering that just supposing a few Russian armoured/infantry detachments had been deployed in and around Baghdad at important government and military sites as peacekeepers/observers or an actual hostile force, then would the 2003 invasion of Iraq have taken place? This stuff was going on long before sites like this were around to report it in the public domain. Thu Feb 3 2022 - 19:50. Its possible if Putin gets really aggressive it could unite the US to someRead more . Wow so they first entered service about the same time as the Type 21s ! HMS Tyne, HMS Richmond and HMS Kent jointly escorted the same group of Russian ships as they operated in the Celtic Sea. The Ukraininans particularly will give a good account of themselves. That was due to the unusually large number of landing craft in the Baltic. As to Corbin(Corbyn) and American born Johnson, well in my opinion Corbyn is poison and Johnson is a clown beyond redemption Regards Geoff(who is btw an ardent Americophile), Douglass post about this being Bidens fault instead of Putin and his yes men is just not true and I dont think its the time to encourage them. Initially other then a echo sounder suite for navigation which is a safety requirement, there are no current plans for a ASW fit on the T31s, for the reasons you have stated. Not training troops. The Turks the bosphorous cutting off vital Shipping routes to Russia. To see all content on The Sun, please use the Site Map. However, the IDF has a long standing policy of refusing to confirm or deny allegations ofRead more . . Im Amazed at Germany and Frances response. I dont think Ukraine had control over those ICBMs on their soil, not without modifications to launch control facilities etc. 25% might just be enough, with the right weapons onboard! kill chain is very complex to find, track, and then engage a warship at range that doesnt want to be shot at. Russian warships have been seen acting unusually off the south coast of Ireland. Nuclear centrifuge assembly plants. The comments below have not been moderated, By 'Our strength depends on preserving our unity and that includes unity within Ukraine. If Biden had the balls he could put a small contingent of US troops in Ukraine and dare Putin to attack. A NATO coalition would see RN surface ships targeted first as the weakest AsUW link in the chain. This idiot wants Biden to start the war. But you have to appreciate they are not the be all and end all. Russian warships have been pictured off the coast of Britain, en route to a suspected bolstering of the bombing campaign on the besieged Syrian city Aleppo.. Royal Navy vessels were closely . Plus, RN experience has taught us we use helicopters in the littoral with Stingray, Martlet and Sea Venom, and hunter killer boats for larger warships. Clearly they have something on him-most probably a secret video of Trump in bed with some Russian beauty! As this is different from Davids comment below Ill go away and try to get some evidence. Its more difficult now given the numbers they have positioned. Why would Poles help Ukrainians? Home of the Daily and Sunday Express. Boris take a private plane back to London from a climate summit in order to get to a party thrown by a conservative party donor .. is that not more irritating than a child asking the adults toRead more , the swedes attitude to defence equipment and production is very good. Next time round-Hillary Clinton vsRead more , Grandpa Biden has been engaged with the Pentagon bigwigs and was informed that Troops had already been pulled out of Vietnam .Now have your 40 winks and Cocoa, You cant blame Trump for this.
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